is inconsequential. whether or not a person had a paid position in 9 aquatics department in uva, inconsequential. what they're not addressing is whether the rape happened or didn't happen. they're thought saying the rape didn't happen. they're saying, whoa, we've got push back. and what we're going to do is blame the victim. push her story aside, which is exactly what uva has done and what people across this country do when women come forward and allege sexual assault. it's a disaster everywhere. >> and it reports here there's no knowledge of the rape. mel robbins, thank you so much. we'll continue to talk about this throughout the morning. and we'll be right back. hey! i guess we're going to need a new santa