no matter where they are. this is not a process just used by secretary clinton. it's a process used by everybody who is under those requests. to lisa's point, these are opponents hair on fire talk points -- let me finish lisa. these are talking points that essentially prove there's been no proof of wrong doing and it drives them crazy. lisa is right -- >> i want to give lisa chance to respond. >> it is tre's job to get to the bottom of the situation and make sure this doesn't happen elsewhere in the world. that is tre's duty. secondly it's hillary clinton's self-inflicted wounds and reluctance to turn over this information or reluctance to be a participant in the process. the fact she went to great lengths to hide this information. these are e-mails she chose to turn over. she deleted tens of thousands of e-mails.