that problems come and go, but some things are eternal. like his relationship with god, the relationship that he has with family and friends and so i try to remind him of that. and hopefully this book will remind others of that as well. >> was there any one devotional? a single day where you think, oh, boy, i thought it was good when i sent it out, but, boy, that really hit it. >> yeah, does he ever respond? >> he does respond from time to time. he's said that devotionals meant the world to him. and i did take a break, right after i got into the white house, i thought i could take a week off sending these on my own and i got a call from the white house switchboard and it was his assistant saying, the president is wondering where his devotionist is. i was a little embarrassed, but i was glad he was wearing them. >> not only does the world never stop, i suppose the president doesn't either. >> what a great story. joshua dubois, thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. >> it's my pleasure. have great morning.