old. and at this stage, they don't know where they are, whether they are alive or dead. they say they were taken down by the tidal surge like it was a washing machine, spun this way, spun that way. and when the mothers emerged from the waves, they couldn't find their children. the hunt goes on, but at this stage, certainly, easy to imagine that they might be dead. but, of course, the focus is now on the survivors and relief aid is starting to filter in, amid all the chaos tacloban now, we saw a few cans of food being handed out, a few cakes, a few rolls of bread. but enough to give people some hope that now help is starting to get through and those bottlenecks have been broken. martin and zoraida? >> thanks, karl penhaul, very much. >> and for ways that you can help survivors of typhoon haiyan, go to cnn.com/impact. there's a lot of information on