cameraman scott mcwinnie can show you. the bridge here that connects urpin to central kyiv, that was destroyed. it was destroyed by ukrainian forces to prevent russian forces from moving on into central kyiv. but what you're seeing now is that people have to navigate and cross on foot this destroyed bridge in order to get out safely. now, since we've been here, we have heard nonstop heavy artillery coming from that direction, also that direction. you can imagine, john, how petrified these people are. many of them have been pinned down for days on end. you can see them here. they've got their pets, they've got small carry-on bags. we have seen a lot of people who are elderly, a lot of people who have difficulty walking. we're seeing a lot of people who are clearly visibly shaken,