attacked by the president and his allies. i just wonder how that felt to you watching those attacks. >> you know, i think it's a difficult period of time for america right now, observe it's highly polarized, there is a lot of opinions. anytime you go after someone's characterization of their service based on the fact you don't like what they're saying is pretty dangerous. if you think about your reference to the op-ed for me the way i was raised and the experience i had in the military, your honor, integrity was always about doing the right things regardless of the consequences not when it's politically palatable to do so. >> let me read a little bit of this. many times during secretary tillerson's tenure, you might about the relationship between tillerson and mattis, reporters would claim he thought his boss was an idiot and tillerson would deny it publically but there was no doubt that tillerson was thinking that, mattis and tillerson was despondent, we had witnessed a meeting with trump up close and personal now we