acquitted that president trump is going to think, there, i did it. and it was fine. i think that that's one of the concerns that someone like brenda lawrence might have. is it more damaging ultimately for the president to claim validation if the senate does not convict. >> you can still have a stain on your record. >> i think we all know enough about donald trump to know that if he wins in the saerntenate, not going to portray it as a not guilty verdict, he's going to portray as a ratification, as an endorsement and that's something all sides have to contemplate. >> abby, jeff and neal, thank you. happy thanksgiving to each and every one of you. impeachment hearings in the house will happen next wednesday. new witnesses will testify. even president trump has been invited to take part. we'll talk to a house democrat who will be there, next. tremfya® helps adults with moderate to severe