be a huge win for farmers and a huge win for the president. >> you spent so much time out there talking to farmers about this. i am curious. we talk about it here and it's an abstraction. for them, it's really not. life and death, yes? >> yes. these numbers that they watch on their screen, the markets moving, their corn prices, the soy prices. i mean, a 50 cent move to them is huge. so when you're talking about trade in this big abstraction between foreign countries, for them cents on the dollar matter. and they are watching this so closely. and they really want these deals to go through. but as i said, in the past they know the democrats and the republicans sort of play ball with this. so they're cautiously excited about that. >> and it's really important for americans to get an eye into how important farmers and the work they do is to the overall economy. and how this has impacted them. and if anybody deserves a break with it's the american farmers. hopefully this is the holiday gift they've been waiting for. >> it would be a big christmas gift for them.