john, i do think there is more to learn, and i think that, in some ways, all that we have seen in betrayal and some of the other investigative reporting, including excellent investigative reporting on cnn, is a prelude to what this january 6th committee has the potential to learn. they have subpoena power. of course, you and i don't. >> mark meadows, you focus on him, and you broke serious news that we foe rwarded on. another blueprint about how mike pence could stop the certification of the election, basically, on january 6th. you think there's much more to find out about mark meadows. what do you mean? >> i do. let me give you one example. one thing i kind of deconstruct what happened where that phone call with secretary of state brad raffensperger in georgia. how the call came about, if you recall, it was a saturday. it came right after raffensperger had appeared on a