question. there was just a lot of overconfidence there. oh, yeah, we had tests before. this one is going to work. and why didn't the leadership at cdc and hhs, and the trump administration say, you know, maybe we should look at these other tests and have them in our back pocket in case this doesn't work out. that's a question that hasn't really been answered. >> dan, what's interesting, you did some great investigative reporting. once you got the documents, hhs tried to claw them back. you're like, oh, that must mean we do have something good here. why should we care now? why does this matter now going forward? >> because we're still living with the mistakes that were made then. we are still arguing about tests even today. the questions have never been examined. we're not going to do what to do in the next pandemic, which is going to happen unless we have a look-back at what went wrong here at this particular moment, this canary in the coal mine,