their limitation is not their skills or training. it is their weaponry. >> now, what was it like to work with them? >> i mean, it was one of the better experience ofs of my car, because it was impactful. we knew this was something down the road. getting them ready by training is something that had huge meaning. they are brothers and it was wonderful interfacing with them. >> ukrainian pilots remind us they have been fighting this war in some regards for years now, since 2014. they've got experience against the russians. how do you think that's played into it? >> i mean, that it's a huge factor. every time we went he to ukraine to train with these guys we would tell stories to kind of relate the stuff that teaching