could have sat at the table, taken the oath, and testified publicly. how unusual that is, and what does this mean for how this is going to go going forward? what do you think? >> i think the problem began some time ago. frankly under the trump administration when trump officials and members of congress decided they didn't have to obey lawful subpoenas. you need to obey a lawful subpoena, but you have to agree to negotiations and how you go forward. i'm the chair of the transparency caucus. i don't see what the problem is with hunter biden appearing in public. i hear a lot of people say what are you afraid of, well, let the american people decide, you know, let them judge. let hunter biden testify publicly and solve these questions. and in the meantime, we're -- if we're going to waste the people's time, can we get our business done first? >> let's try to run through some of the business. i don't know if you're going to put some their -- put this into
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