kind of conversations they had all last week during the congregation. one of the key things, because the cardinals don't campaign for this, he didn't have a platform, there is all the speculation, about what will he do as a reformer, a caretaker? he probably doesn't know yet. >> everyone looks for clues. he picked the name francis, what does that mean? he wore black and not the papal white, what does that mean? he told the cardinals hold on, i'm going to address the crowd, what does that mean? >> he will roll it out in his own good time. fascinating as he rolls forward with the american church, some people think of moving forward. my parents are very devout. my mother would say the church's job, not a popularity contest. not to move. people are voting this way. change all the doctrine and yet at the same time that is a challenge for the american church. how do you keep up with what people consider to be modern times, but keep to a doctrine that is obviously based in t