the singular event that has shaped the debate we're having now, which is the same debate that we have periodically, were the killings of these children in newtown. so these things add, sometimes they subtract. you do hear some states complaining that millions of dollars put into advertising by the mayor of new york is not going to help in the midwest or the interior west. but gradually there are things that states are doing. but this is a -- this defies a political solution as i think senator harry reid is finding out, in some ways simply because this is a geographical problem. sometimes even inside a state it is a geographical -- if you live in a city you tend to be much more for some gun control -- or further gun control. if you're in a rural area where guns are part of the culture, you're less inclined to do that. so it defies traditional