>> they normally use every type of snares. these are spiked. they'll be placing them on the elephant parts. you can imagine, though, these spikes getting into an elephant leg. then it is tied to a tree stump and can't move. at times, we get so emotional when we go into the forest, looking at what all this means. it's all dead. two very innocent animals. if you don't join hearts to save these animals, they'll be wiped out. sorry. it's because --