systematic spying at the highest level. this was all revealed in an interview with "the washington post." our joe johns, crime and justice correspondent, knows all about it. he actually used the words "mission accomplished." i think we all remember what that means. >> yeah, we definitely do. but probably everybody would agree not in the same context. so snowden says he's already done what he set out to do. the quote from the article say, in terms of personal satisfaction for him, the mission's already accomplished. he said he already won. as soon as the journalists were able to work, everything he'd been trying to do was validated. now, barton galman, the author of the article in "the washington post," talked about this earlier today on cnn. let's listen to what he said. >> what he means by mission accomplished is he wanted the public to know what was being done in its name and what was being done to it in terms of surveillance, and he wanted it to be possible that decisions be made outside the secret bubble