see anything. but as far as the pingers go, don, i think you're right. i think time is running out for those now. >> they haven't run out already, thank you, michael holmes. appreciate it. i want to bring in cnn aviation analyst and retired british royal air force michael michael kay and les abend and there at the end, famed ocean pioneer jacques cousteau and also fame noud in his own right. cnn analyst and ocean expert, david gallo. welcome to the panel. thank you for coming in. i just had a conversation, actually, with -- what's his name? the other cousteau. >> which one? >> jacques, fabian. >> sebob. >> a small group. >> i wanted him to come in and talk about it and he's working on a show and he will come in i time. so, listen, i want to start with that part of the world is