you've called donald trump dangerous. but with each controversy he's been through he's only risen in the polls. donald trump aside, what does that say about republican sentiment right now? the electorate? >> the republican electorate, there's a lot of anger out there. unfortunately, donald trump isn't the solution for that anger. donald trump is exploiting that anger, as a guy who is a talented showman and a conman where he is tricking conservatives to believing he is one of them. he's not. he's a liberal. >> what is the outcome for the republican party ahead of debates? is this a distraction or a shakeup that the party needs? >> it's a distraction. i believe you'll have a lot of high-quality candidates on that stage, with one exception, donald trump. and those folks have thought through a lot of serious alternatives to hillary clinton's policies. and it's going to be something where trump tries to exploit and