days go on. and they'll be able to, you know, start to get the ball rolling, fast. and say, we need to do something now. and i think more importantly, is to listen to the officers that were there, that day, on the ground. because there's this misconception that there was no firearms there. that those people in the crowd had no firearms. there were firearms there. and i'm talking about handguns. not just the, you know, general term weapons. i'm talking about actual handguns. people had handguns on them. so, you know, this is serious. this is serious stuff. >> and you can watch jake tapper's full interview with the mother and partner of brian sicknick at cnn.com. all right. want to bring in thomas gift, who is the director of the center on u.s. politics at university college london and he joins us now, from oxford. thanks, so much, for being here. just off the bat, did anything surprise you about the vote? >> not at all, kim.