>> i was looking to do it in about 18 to 20 hours, depending on traffic and, you know, bathroom breaks for the dog and me. a little longer than i was expecting. >> when you and i spoke yesterday, you were pretty positive given the situation, because you were facing, of course, really cold weather, and making sure that you stay warm, that you had enough gas in your tank really. >> yeah, at that point i was pretty positive after we spoke. a glimmer of hope, they let us go and i drove over some not very well plowed roads. looked like we're moving. we moved about 8 miles, and then we stopped again for a number of hours. it was still closed. i'm surprised they didn't usher us off the first exit and let everyone drive ahead, it was another waiting game until the other exit was cleared, exit 33. i felt good right after i spoke to you, and i felt less good later in the day, let's say.