>> yeah, i mean it's essentially the job and essentially what we have to do. but i -- i try my best to paint a picture of -- of what's going on. the best, most accurate and honest picture of what is going on around us and i do my best -- we do our best to insert ourselves in places that readers and viewers cannot go themselves. um, so in that sense, i feel like i have to bring them into the storm for them to understand what and how the storm feels like. >> when you think about what putin did to grozny and what he did to aleppo, um, compared to what is happening in ukraine, is the only difference right now sort of a strong presence of reporters, especially from la times, cnn, and other news outlets which is sort of documenting the saturation coverage almost what is happening here. because if you weren't here, i wasn't here, our news organization wasn't here do you