problem? >> i think it's both. unfortunately, this pandemic from the very beginning, alisyn, has been politicized. i think that's really what happens introduced this whole toxic nature into the pandemic. if you really break it down to the basics, there's nothing political about this virus. we have one enemy, and that is covid-19. democrats, republicans, really the entire u.s. is really fighting against one enemy. and, of course, guidelines change. this virus evolves. as this virus evolves, we have to evolve. what we knew two weeks ago may not necessarily be the truth next week. and i also think that people expect science to be all or nothing, black or white. and that's not true. as we get more information, the guidelines might change. >> i want to bring up this oxford university study about what we know of so-called long covid. it's not a disease where you get