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however, this is a time that germany, i understand the gas pipeline, i understand the history. but they've got to step up with europe. and really one of the great leaders of europe. this isn't just about the united states. and with germany and france and u.k. and the allies, then we really present a united front. and if there is a gas problem, then it is up to the rest of us, including qatar and others to work around the nord stream issue but you can't let that determine, if you will, really critical, not just functional but philosophical aspects of our foreign policy and why we're all facing this in europe today. >> peter, what do you think about that? germany's role here and i mean obviously if there is a grass problem, it is up to everyone else to try to solve. they also have, you know, they're quite intertwined with russia in terms of being trading partners so how destabilizing is

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