it's that smaller percentage that we're going to be focusing on with this discussion today. will it make a difference? sure. who are the vaccinated that end up in the hospital? probably elderly people. probably people who are more vulnerable. and i think they make a case that they would benefit from a boost. but the big problem causing the urgency is still the unvaccinated. >> and there's that graphic you were referencing there. on the other side of the spectrum here is one of the advisers on this panel who is saying the biden administration has rushed this process. approving boosters. is there sufficient information at this point for a recommendation to be made at today's meeting? >> i don't think so, to be honest, in terms of hard data. at least not what i've seen. maybe they're going to present more data there. i think a lot of this is based on israel data, and again, they do make the case that for certain age groups, people older than the age of 60 or 65, they are the people who are most