it was thursday. this is friday. what strikes you first of all, the fact it's taken 2 1/2 days. we know it has to be unanimous. does that seem quick to you? >> no it seems about right. i think it's appropriate. it was a clear case with respect to the guilt issue, whether tsarnaev was intimately involved in this atrocity. the only issue is whether he deserves the death penalty. there are a lot of questions on the jury verdict sheet involving what they call aggravating circumstances and mitigating circumstances. so i have no doubt there's been a spirited debate among the jurors as to whether this is a death penalty case. frankly, i think this is enough time for a jury to carefully consider all of the factors before making a decision. >> can you -- take us inside that jury deliberation room. what exactly did they have to walk through? because as i mentioned a moment ago, it has to be unanimous.