and police is so key, when that trust is eroded, what is the result of that? >> the result is victims stop reporting to law enforcement. the result is police officers can't get witnesses to crimes to give them information in their communities. the result is that you can result in actual violence and harassment that takes us back, and it doesn't serve anyone. it doesn't serve police officers. it doesn't serve members of the community, and that is why you have law enforcement chiefs around the country also shaking their heads at these comments. they are not helpful and they actually are incredibly corrosive to the longer term effort to ensure that policing is fair and just in america. >> vanita gupta, thank you. >> thank you. and quick note before i let you go, do not forget speaker nancy pelosi will be on "cnn tonight" in a special cnn town hall. she will be taking questions from the audience. jake tapper will be moderating. do not miss this. it happens tonight, 9:00 eastern right here on cnn.