you deserve safety. you deserve all the things that we have to offer you. how can we help give that to you? this is going to be, again, a practical conversation. >> but i think some americans might take that as the pope scolding them because americans see themselves as very generous people and most americans are. >> i know, but what the pope will scold is unbridled capitalism that says it's all about you. remember, the gospel is really less capitalism, a little bit more socialist. it says if somebody has two coats and you meet somebody who has no coat, you have it give them one of your coats. that's not really according to our ethos and our perspective. you say well you have to work for your own coat but you don't ask why don't you have a coat? you first meet the need. the pope is going to say how do you meet this need? that's what he's calling on parishes to do with the refugees. he's going to challenge i think the unbridled capitalism in the united states. >> that, too, will not make many people happy in the united states. it will be an interesting visit, right? >> i think it will.