cardiac arrest at one time and one aed machine, which is the pads that go on your chest and can shock you and one ambu bag. >> so -- oh, my gosh. i understand you've also been -- we only have a couple minutes left, but you've been to many of these concerts. what made this one different? do you have any ideas? >> this is my third -- it was way more crowded. i don't know what happened. i don't know if it was the stage setup where they had general admission in a small area. i've been to concerts and, yes, it gets tight but i've never felt like i was going to pass out. i never saw people collapsing and definitely never saw anybody die. >> can i ask you real quickly, there is a 10-year-old as we understand it who is still in critical condition. did you see many kids at this event? >> i saw a few, maybe four or five that would work around with their parents.