good to see you, stephanie. you told kcbs radio that options like cans and boxes may not work for all wineries. explain. >> that is absolutely correct. for a number of reasons, the wine manifests differently and tastes different in different types of environments and packages. so if we were to produce a wine to be bottled or put in a can, we would have to change some of our wine making practices. also from a practical and business standpoint and infrastructure, we have a bottling line that's for glasses and glass bottles. switching that on the fly doesn't work. >> it's already a tedious process. it is quite the science for any winery for their product. so it's not just glass, apparently, the shortage that's a big problem. but some wineries are also dealing with wood shortages and