for war. putin hopes that biden is not a chamberlain, taking peace for all time. i'm increasingly worried that he's right after biden keeps giving him what he wants. putin's main goal was just to call, he didn't care what they discussed because it showed putin's gang that putin is in charge. he is a big boss negotiating with the biggest boss in the world, the president of the united states, and i still don't understand how can you discuss the fate of ukraine without ukraine being at the table. >> so if ukraine is at the table, so to speak, with the president of the united states tomorrow by way of the phone call, isn't that a start? >> let's think why putin is negotiating with biden the fate of ukraine. the country he has been invading. also i don't understand, you know, why american administration keeps repeating if putin invade ukraine. he has invaded ukraine. eight years ago. he still occupies cripmea and