i mean, can you imagine? liz freaking cheney, the daughter of dick cheney, you know, is a rino and not republican enough and being censured and wanting to push her out? liz cheney. i mean, it makes absolutely no sense. and they're doing it for what? for a criminal mastermind who has no political or institutional, ideological grounding in the republican party, who used and turned that base for his own benefits and his own political and personal gain. >> it's not just a few far-right extremists anymore. that ideology clearly -- >> no. it's those in power afraid of losing their positions, who have put their political future much above the country. >> a pleasure to talk with you, ana navarro. thank you. >> thank you. still to come, efforts continue to reach a 5-year-old boy who's been trapped in a well for four days.