he was on this call with trump and the allegation is he was trying to pressure the secretary of state. that's how all of this got started. >> what trump is going to argue that i was doing that as president, therefore, any charges against me in georgia should be tried in a federal court. however, there's nothing in the law that gives the president the right to oversee the election in state courts. he was clearly out of bounds with regard to any presidential duties. i think he's going to have a harder time. >> why would mark meadows think there's greater leniency in a federal court than with jurisdiction? >> you get a federal joinudge w may or may not have been appointed by trump. also you get a larger jury pool. the jurors for the fulton county rico case will be drawn strictly