the debate next week. take a listen. >> there's no other conclusion to come to that he's both afraid of me and afraid of defending his record. if i had his record, i'd be nervous about showing up too. let's face it, by wednesday he's going to be out on bail in four different jurisdictions. when are we going to stop thinking that's normal? when are we going to allow our country to understand again that nominating someone who's out on bail -- [ no audio ] >> reporter: christie talked about advocating for cutting spending, limiting the federal government. then just a few minutes later he talked about how the federal government has to get more aggressive in terms of addressing public safety if they have disagreements with progressive prosecutors. i asked him if he saw this as