of the doubt and i have to let him express himself. and for sure in this film, we let him talk tremendous amount from his perspective about what he remembers about his life. so he certainly had a chance to express all of that and perhaps express even more than what he or his lawyer would have liked. >> was there ever a moment where you were scared to be with robert durst? i mean, just scared that he knew who you were? >> well, with you know, bob is a very -- like a lot of people who commit complex and hard-to-solve crimes. he's extremely charming. when you're with bob, you feel like you're with a bright, engaging, funny, rwry, clever person, who's certainly well bred who has had a tremendous amount of life experience. you never feel that way in the moment. but after i showed that evidence, which was deep into