television? they obviously have experience iigor fruman to smear officials. particularly yuri schennco and behind the scenes interviewing they were meddling false information in order to extract revenge against those who had these witnesses. they likely know where they want exposed their misconduct, including u.s. diplomats and to go. they have practice. they certainly know the case. reformed minded civil society i think their goal will be groups in ukraine. obviously to lay this out in a during the late spring and clear and concise way, get some summer of 2019, i became alarmed sound byte moments from these as those efforts bore fruit. they led to the ouster of witnesses based on what they already know. ambassador yovanovitch and i mean that's the thing. there have been hours an hours of transcripts released so far. hampered u.s. efforts to stab how can they distill this in a way that is television friendly rapport in the zelensky so that will be their goal here. >> ross, daniel goldman who will commission in ukraine. the investigations were now do the initial question on affecting ukraine, leveraging behalf of the democrats, the director of investigations, but president zelensky's desire for he's a lawyer, spent a decade as a white house meeting. there are and always have been an assistant u.s. attorny in conditionality placed on our sovereign loan guarantees for manhattan, southern u.s. ukraine. districts the u.s. attorney in conditions include the southern district and then anti-corruption reforms as well as meeting larger stability legal analyst, he recently said goals and social safety nets. this of daniel goldman, he was the international monetary fund does the same thing. one of the go-to trial guys. congress and the executive there is no case too complex for him. he's a great prosecutor. branch work together to put conditionability on some he's got a very powerful security assistance in the