concern which is the -- which is why the timeline has been what it is. hard to really see what the benefits necessarily are. sort of dragging it out a bit here. it doesn't appear that she has any real leverage with mitch mcconnell. has mitch -- have you met mitch mcconnell? he's someone who clearly has said that he's not going to be an impartial juror here and he's also working with the president very closely. so it's hard to know. i do think there are folks in her caucus who want something of a delay so she can throw a bone to them, but it's hard to imagine what the real benefits of this are. >> so listen to majority whip jim clyburn. he was just on "new day." listen to what he said about how indefinite this could be and how supportive he is of this move. >> are you willing to hold the articles indefinitely if mitch mcconnell doesn't concede the points you're asking him to? are you suggesting it's possible you will never transmit the