cooperate on those matters. that alone is sufficient to advance the referral. but for the sake of argument, let's talk about mr. meadows' privilege assertions. the select committee is not able to assess whether mr. meadows is making those assertions in good faith because he won't even come in and address them on a question by question basis as required. i have my view of whether he made these claims in good faith because i've seen him on television talking about his conversations with the president and promoting his book. i understand that this is a difficult matter. i have no great desire to be here seeking consideration of this contempt referral. mr. meadows was a colleague for more than seven years. but that doesn't excuse his behavior. if anything, his time as a member of the house should make him more aware of the potential