trump or a good debate, that allows them to keep that strategy alive. >> what about marco rubio. he did pretty well in the debate. he is a pretty talented debater? is he someone to watch out for? >> he has risen to the top of the establishment list, traditional republicans. he has benefited for a fall from grace for jeb bush, whose numbers continue to sink and sink. the problem for marco rubio, that campaign has to identify a state where they can win. if you look at iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, marco rubio is not number one in any of those places. they are going to have to pick one of those and put a lot of resources in it. you scacan't win the presidency until you win a state. >> is this shaping up to be a three-way run? >> the experts say there may be