>> when marco came, that was usually the wave of when the filipinos were coming to canada. i would say first wave of sri lankans late '70s, chinese, vietnamese filipinos, '80s. sri lankans again. and now it's more syrians and afghans. and i hate the word refugee. we call them newcomers here. >> say again. >> we call them newcomers. >> i love this word. how old were when you you came here? >> i was 14. >> you were 14. >> i was 12. >> what's the experience like? >> just the identity crisis. when you come here at 12 years old, you don't know who you are as an individual. you're learning things about yourself. >> you're very lost. >> do you feel that having that experience makes you a little tougher? >> yes. definitely. definitely. >> it was tough. it was cold. >> it was cold. that's all i remember. >> okay. >> nice and cold. >> cheers. >> okay. i'm going to let you in on a