the trade of communicator, he simply sets up communications or did when he was working within the system. he's the sort of guy who 30 years ago would have worn a tool belt to information. he obviously made off with information that he shouldn't have. but as far as collecting the information, i don't have a problem with that. >> michael, good to talk to you. thank you very much for joining me. >> good to be here. >> we'll be right back. spokesman i have to look my so bbest on camera.sing