the question is how hard of a sell is that? that's the big challenge tonight, piers and then we get into many more layers. if they want to get the president to the table, they have to reopen it? >> a new nbc wall street journal tonight, 53% of americans blaming the gop, 31% blame the president. so a big widening gap so to put it in context in '95 the last shut down at the same stage, 47% blame the gop and 27% blame bill clinton but the gop we know from our sources are getting very twitching, senior leaders thinking this isn't working for us, this strategy so we have to extra kate ourselves and get whatever concessions we can. is that your take on it? >> you just had a great conversation with the democrat and republican. tom cole once ran the campaign committee, raised the money and help support the candidates.