i've been beseeching people to do this. i'm delighted you're going to publicly take them on, the leadership, not the membership. why do you do this? why do you care so passionately? >> it's funny. all the past school massacres that i read about in the newspaper, columbine, aurora, we feel deeply for four or five days, and then we get on with our lives. we say let's fight for gun control, let's do something about it. you know, when sandy hook and newtown happened, 20 minutes away from where i live with my kids. whatever. i watched your shows all during that time period. when it's in your backyard, you cannot ignore it. i mean, i've done a good job of feeling sympathetic for it over the years, but i've done also a good job of ignoring it and saying that's somebody else's fight. and then i met the giffords and,