uses, the dersies where you basically steal every moment. >> you don't steal. you try and embroider, to enhance the breadth of the character if you will. >> you steal it. how do you feel? i mean, what a moment for you after 18 movies to finally get nominated for a lead role. >> well, the biggest win i've had in this whole process is that alexander payne invited me to come on down and play the role. >> right. because it was nine years in the making, right? >> yeah. and ten by now. and he didn't want to make two road movies in a row. so he was starting "sideways" so he made that. this is after i got the script. then he went and made "the descendents" in hawaii and then he made this. i think the two problems were basically i was kind of a mid-range problem because not a lot of people wanted bruce from winnetka to be in there. the other one was black and white. a big big problem getting it made in black and white. >> i've got to ask you. in the movie there's a name