it is not impeachment that stops him, it is not indictment that stops him, it is conviction. if you impeach him when you fail to convict, then you don't constrain him, you empower him. if you indict him here and failed to convict, you can elect him president again. >> ambassador john bolton, thank you for your time tonight. >> for more on what we are learning about the special counsel's investigation, i want to bring in one of the most foremost experts in election law, republican attorney ben ginsburg. he also testified, i should note, as an expert before the house, january 6th congressional committee. thank you so much for being, here when you look at this and you hear this reporting about these three statutes that are allegedly cited in this letter, you know, if that is what trump is ultimately charged, with which one do you think is the most important? >> well it really depends on what the fact that jack smith presents our. and other, words if this is a case where there is a broad conspiracy with lots of information that we don't know yet, than any of the three could be serious. i think the deprivation of