i -- they seem to already have made something of a mark, when going with the old current tv and getting into 50 million house holds. i wonder what they're going to become a real presence on the news zdial. >> current tv may have had access to 50 million homes, but it was from a far outside position on channel dial, they would be channel 544, whereas cnn might be 24. there's also going to be a standard deaf channel and a lot -- they're also reporting in high deaf. if you're looking for serious reporting, there's a place to go. >> there's another side of this debate that's fascinating.