intelligence. i hope one thing that can come out of this is this is filled with holes and that's intimidating and daunting and is afraid to come forward. they don't know what protection they'll get. >> for sunny my next rule of thumb is we should advocate for great outcome. showing and explaining what's going on. look at some of the examples. washington post, "usa today", cnn doing explainers, annotations, who's whos, fact checks. what's your advice to news rooms. explaining what's going on. it's quite complicated with lots of characters. >> that's right. that's one problem i for see in the coverage is that people may feel that it's hopelessly complicated and throw up their hands especially since you have a concerted effort from the beginning to essentially spread propaganda and conspiracy