shep now gone, what fox has said is they are going to be a rot e rotating series of hosts. "f tho "if those are people like bill hemm hemmer, hosts that do news, if they're journalists, it will be a good sign for the 3:00 hour. if it's not, if it's opinion mavens, that will be another big chunk of real journalism that won't exist there. >> yeah, and there's other hours, the right-wing conspiracy theories. look at jeanine pirro's show, she had president trump call in for a softball interview last night. there was also a left-wing conspiracy theory out there about shep smith, and i want to debunk it. there was a reporter in "the new york times" that rupert murdoch had a meeting with attorney general bill barr. they did meet, but it had nothing to do with smith resigning. smith had been thinking about this for several weeks. i want to put that to rest. i do think it speaks volumes, though, people wonder is someone pulling the strings. julie, people do legitimately wonder about the murdochs and their role in shaping fox news