to know him over the course of the years having been on his show. he texted me about a legal question. i said it depends. i gave him my truthful reaction. he was using it to defend judge nappolitano to called him a fool for saying it wasn't criminal conduct. i think there's a reason shep left the network and it's fox's loss. >> do you think there's room left for people trying to explain trump is in pretty hot water? >> i think there's always room for reasoned legal analysis. i think one of the issues right now is impeachment is such an inherently political question. perhaps we're looking through it -- through the wrong lens. we're so caught up from the mueller investigation, thinking about this from a statutory analysis, thinking does it meet the legal definitions of a crime when we all know a crime is neither necessary for sufficient for an impeachment. really, it's a political question, and so, therefore, the