to be unacceptable to make it. >> what about threats to journalists? we all agree there's been a rise of threats against journalists partly because of the president's rhetoric. got to change. got to stop. some things that don't need to change, some things we need to hold on to. >> number one, support of the fishs first amendment. we can't take our freedoms for granted. we have to choose them and defend them. defending the first amendment is the most important thing we can do for the health of journalism moving forward. >> david, what about you? >> we have to hang on to legacy values. we can't say we can compromise on this one, we can compromise on that one but we'll keep that one. that's the difference. that's what earns us the guarantees we have under the constitution. we have a public obligation to serve those values of truth, of giving citizens information they can trust. if we don't have a verifiable,