data. i find myself looking for guideposts, quote messages that sum up the environment we're in. you wrote recently about j.d. vance, ohio senate candidate and eight words that in some ways define our politics now in the worst way. he says as an american conservative, he said, "i think our people hate the right people." now to me unfortunately that sums up where we are on the extremes of our politics in 2021. i always go back to those eight words as what's pulling at the hearts, our people hate those people. >> that's exactly correct. and he's accurately summing up the hatred, not that you can hate the right people, there are no right people to hate, to be clear. but what he's summing up is the dynamic in play. but, again, what we have to go back to is this is not where most people want american politics to be. and it's twrong swrong to say t all in the moderate middle. there are people on the left,